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	<title>Comments on: Statistical Analysis and A/B Testing</title>
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		<title>By: peng_s</title>
		<link>http://20bits.com/articles/statistical-analysis-and-ab-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-4831</link>
		<dc:creator>peng_s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 07:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi friends,&lt;br&gt;    I am new to R.I would like to know R-PLUS.Does any know where can I get the free training for R-PLUS.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,&lt;br&gt;Peng.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi friends,<br />    I am new to R.I would like to know R-PLUS.Does any know where can I get the free training for R-PLUS.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />Peng.</p>
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		<title>By: jtregister</title>
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		<dc:creator>jtregister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great resource; thanks. I&#039;m beginning to look into the statistics behind A/B testing and have some questions. This is well after the initial post, so hopefully Jesse and others will see this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For the distribution of the conversion rate, it seems like it should be a binomial distribution, which can be approximated by the normal distribution (as Jesse asserts in the comments) with scale.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But how about if we take this one step further and look to measure this on an e-commerce website, where there&#039;s not just conversion rate but also average order value to consider? (Really, we want to look at the contribution margin, but let&#039;s assume -- admittedly incorrectly -- that we have a 100% margin on the shopping cart.) This considers contribution per visitor, a broader metric of an e-commerce website than simply conversion rate. (And of course the subsequent step is to follow the impact on lifetime customer value, but let&#039;s not go there for now.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now if you consider the distribution of average order value on a typical e-commerce website, often ~95% do not convert. Of those who do convert, there&#039;s typically a normally distributed range of average order values. But if you plot the entire range of AOV, including those who don&#039;t convert, there&#039;s a huge &#039;peak&#039; at zero followed by a normal bell curve. This is a more complicated distribution than a simple normal distribution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does anyone have insights on how to analyze the A/B results for contribution per visitor given this type of distribution? Seems like perhaps a compound Poisson, or something similarly complex. Or can someone perhaps provide a good justification of why this level of complexity is unnecessary in the analysis?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,&lt;br&gt;Jonathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great resource; thanks. I&#39;m beginning to look into the statistics behind A/B testing and have some questions. This is well after the initial post, so hopefully Jesse and others will see this.</p>
<p>For the distribution of the conversion rate, it seems like it should be a binomial distribution, which can be approximated by the normal distribution (as Jesse asserts in the comments) with scale.</p>
<p>But how about if we take this one step further and look to measure this on an e-commerce website, where there&#39;s not just conversion rate but also average order value to consider? (Really, we want to look at the contribution margin, but let&#39;s assume &#8212; admittedly incorrectly &#8212; that we have a 100% margin on the shopping cart.) This considers contribution per visitor, a broader metric of an e-commerce website than simply conversion rate. (And of course the subsequent step is to follow the impact on lifetime customer value, but let&#39;s not go there for now.)</p>
<p>Now if you consider the distribution of average order value on a typical e-commerce website, often ~95% do not convert. Of those who do convert, there&#39;s typically a normally distributed range of average order values. But if you plot the entire range of AOV, including those who don&#39;t convert, there&#39;s a huge &#39;peak&#39; at zero followed by a normal bell curve. This is a more complicated distribution than a simple normal distribution.</p>
<p>Does anyone have insights on how to analyze the A/B results for contribution per visitor given this type of distribution? Seems like perhaps a compound Poisson, or something similarly complex. Or can someone perhaps provide a good justification of why this level of complexity is unnecessary in the analysis?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />Jonathan</p>
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		<title>By: Loïc d&#39;Anterroches</title>
		<link>http://20bits.com/articles/statistical-analysis-and-ab-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-4599</link>
		<dc:creator>Loïc d&#39;Anterroches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot! You helped me getting a 50% boost in conversion rate for my website:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ceondo.com/ecte/2009/08/ab-testing-boost-conversion&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ceondo.com/ecte/2009/08/ab-testing-b...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I really recommend everybody to do some AB testing. I am linking to the PHP code to the tests from my article if people are interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot! You helped me getting a 50% boost in conversion rate for my website:<br /><a href="http://www.ceondo.com/ecte/2009/08/ab-testing-boost-conversion" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.ceondo.com/ecte/2009/08/ab-testing-b.." rel="nofollow">http://www.ceondo.com/ecte/2009/08/ab-testing-b..</a>.</p>
<p>I really recommend everybody to do some AB testing. I am linking to the PHP code to the tests from my article if people are interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Traveller_Adventure</title>
		<link>http://20bits.com/articles/statistical-analysis-and-ab-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-4556</link>
		<dc:creator>Traveller_Adventure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 04:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is quite impressive, I am pleased to read this post, keep posts like this coming, you totally rock!&lt;br&gt;Cheers,&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;the-review.info/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blog Review&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quite impressive, I am pleased to read this post, keep posts like this coming, you totally rock!<br />Cheers,<br /><a href="the-review.info/" rel="nofollow">Blog Review</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cindy P Dennis</title>
		<link>http://20bits.com/articles/statistical-analysis-and-ab-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-4097</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy P Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, entertaining, useful reading, Thanks !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, entertaining, useful reading, Thanks !!</p>
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		<title>By: nutrition foods</title>
		<link>http://20bits.com/articles/statistical-analysis-and-ab-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-4086</link>
		<dc:creator>nutrition foods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info. May God have mercy on us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info. May God have mercy on us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Yvonne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yvonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If for example, you had a treatment D which had a z-score of -2.94 - would you then be 95% confident that treatment D is worse than the control?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If for example, you had a treatment D which had a z-score of -2.94 &#8211; would you then be 95% confident that treatment D is worse than the control?</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Test for Busby</title>
		<link>http://20bits.com/articles/statistical-analysis-and-ab-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-4045</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Test for Busby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have good hypothesis testing. I cant post article like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have good hypothesis testing. I cant post article like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Farmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The conversion rate for each treatment approximates a normally distributed random variable is more correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The conversion rate for each treatment approximates a normally distributed random variable is more correct.</p>
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		<title>By: hadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The conversion rate for each treatment is a normally distributed random variable&quot; - are you sure??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The conversion rate for each treatment is a normally distributed random variable&#8221; &#8211; are you sure??</p>
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